ShopWithMe fails to supply firm possession or govt data on its web site.
ShopWithMe operates from the area (“shopwithme.biz”), privately registered on April 14th, 2021.
On June thirtieth BehindMLM reader Melanie famous a Direct Promoting Journal article. The June twenty eighth article represents ShopWithMe was launched by Christian Wiesner.
Christian Wiesner begins the brand new social commerce revolution with Shopwithme!
The founding father of Shopwithme GmbH, headquartered within the federal capital, is Dr. Keywan Grashoff, mom of Christian Wiesner.
Wiesner’s identify seems as a “consultant” on ShopWithMe’s web site.
Contact particulars offered verify ShopWithMe is integrated in Germany. The company handle offered nevertheless belongs to Regus, a digital workplace service provider.
Christian Wiesner is understood to BehindMLM as founder and CEO of WellStar.
In 2015 BehindMLM coated a spat between Wiesner and Kari Wahlroos.
Wahlroos joined WellStar in 2014 and shortly rose to the rank of Crown Ambassador. Wahlroos was often cited as one among WellStar’s “high leaders”.
Then in late 2015, Wahlroos bailed from WellStar to entrance the infamous OneCoin Ponzi scheme.
This didn’t sit effectively with Wiesner.
Wiesner accused Wahlroos of partaking in “legal conduct”. Wahlroos circled and, in a public letter, offered perception into WellStar’s enterprise operations.
The true problem right here is that, as Wellstars No1 and essentially the most profitable chief, I’ve determined that this firm won’t ever ship on the guarantees you make.
I’ve had numerous discussions with you to repair the countless issues and also you by no means ship. All now we have been instructed by you, for over 18 months, is ‘recruit extra’ and ‘promote extra tickets’.
The administration of Wellstar stays a shame.
Merchandise flaws. A product returns system that doesn’t work. Non-existent of buyer help, horrible companion help.
What number of instances did my staff have to indicate the issues with you making an attempt to assert that we had been at fault?
I beloved the product idea and I such as you personally but professionally as a CEO you don’t ship so the corporate is a large number.
We each know that so many leaders have give up as a result of they don’t earn any cash so you need to launch a brand new nation each 3 months.
BehindMLM reviewed WellStar in January 2016. What we discovered appeared to substantiate Wahlroos’ account.
Whether or not it’s language-barrier points, the truth that WellStar was based twelve years in the past – regardless of the motive – WellStar as an MLM alternative is in determined want of an overhaul.
Issues come up with an absence of disclosure on the WellStar web site, spanning retail costs, affiliate membership prices and fundamental compensation plan data.
As to the compensation plan itself, there’s a number of data offered however not a lot of it makes any sense.
We recognized autoship recruitment on the core of WellStar’s enterprise mannequin, which might certainly make it a pyramid scheme.
As reported by BehindMLM readers, WellStar would go on to break down in mid to late 2020. The corporate’s web site disappeared in early 2021.
As of mid 2021 Wiesner was amid a WellStar shell firm mess. This may ultimately outcome within the insolvency of WellStar GmbH & Co. KG, ordered by a German court docket on February fifteenth, 2022.
ShopWithMe surfaced a couple of months later.
I believe Wiesner’s WellStar shell firm shenanigans are why his mom is being credited as ShopWithMe’s founder.
Learn on for a full evaluate of ShopWithMe’s MLM alternative.
ShopWithMe’s Merchandise
ShopWithMe has no retailable services or products itself.
ShopWithMe offers entry to an ecommerce platform, populated with merchandise from third-parties.
In an official ShopWithMe advertising video, Wiesner claims merchandise provided span magnificence, health and wellness.
ShopWithMe’s Compensation Plan
ShopWithMe’s compensation plan pays on product orders by retail clients and recruited associates.
Like several ecommerce platform, ShopWithMe earns a fee from retailers whose merchandise characteristic on its platform.
A proportion of that fee funds ShopWithMe’s compensation plan.
To maintain issues easy, until explicitly in any other case acknowledged, “clients” hereafter refers to each retail clients and recruited associates.
ShopWithMe Affiliate Ranks
There are seven ranks inside ShopWithMe’s compensation plan.
Together with their respective qualification standards, they’re as follows:
- Affiliate – join as a ShopWithMe affiliate
- Nationwide Success Coach (NSC) – generate 400 PV and purchase 5 tickets
- Worldwide Success Coach (ISC) – recruit thirty NSCs
- Gold Govt Chief (GEL) – recruit fifty NSCs
- Gold Govt Director (GED) – recruit 100 NSCs or three ISCs
- Gold Govt President (GEP) – recruit 100 and fifty NSCs or 5 ISCs
- Chairman Govt (CE) – recruit 100 and fifty NSCs or 5 ISCs
The next is a advertising slide from an official presentation by Christian Wiesner:
Most of it doesn’t make sense however I used to be capable of comply with the 400 PV NSC xx ISC rank qualification standards. I do not know what all the opposite stuff is and Wiesner doesn’t clarify.
“Tickets” refers to ShopWithMe advertising occasions, hosted by Wiesner.
ShopWithMe advertising occasion tickets are €9.95 EUR and €4.95 within the Baltic international locations.
Wiesner states the value distinction for the Baltic international locations is as a result of “individuals have little or no revenue there”.
Private Buyer Commissions
ShopWithMe associates earn a fee on purchases by personally referred clients.
You may earn on any buyer shopping for merchandise on the shopwithme platform as much as 21%.
Your Fee is relying on the rebate standing degree the Buyer is shopping for at Shopwithme.
“Rebate standing” standards will not be offered.
Residual Buyer Commissions
ShopWithMe pays residual buyer buy commissions through a unilevel compensation construction.
A unilevel compensation construction locations an affiliate on the high of a unilevel staff, with each personally recruited affiliate positioned immediately below them (degree 1):
If any degree 1 associates recruit new associates, they’re positioned on degree 2 of the unique affiliate’s unilevel staff.
If any degree 2 associates recruit new associates, they’re positioned on degree 3 and so forth and so forth down a theoretical infinite variety of ranges.
ShopWithMe caps payable unilevel staff ranges at ten.
You may earn one other 42% on PV (Provision Quantity) of all Buyer orders of as much as 10 ranges of SBOs of your staff.
Particular fee charges throughout the ten unilevel staff ranges will not be offered.
Momentum Bonus
The Momentum Bonus is obtainable to new ShopWithMe associates, throughout their first twelve weeks with the corporate.
The Momentum Bonus is made up of commissionable gross sales quantity.
PV stands for “Private Quantity” and is gross sales quantity generated by an affiliate.
GV stands for “Group Quantity”. GV is PV generated by an affiliate and their downline.
The Momentum Bonus is paid out utilizing the identical unilevel staff as “Residual Buyer Commissions” (see above).
There are 4 tiers to the Momentum Bonus, primarily based on PV and GV technology:
- Bonus Begin (generate 160 PV) – obtain a 20% Momentum Bonus on degree 1 and 5% on ranges 2 and three
- Advance Begin (generate 320 PV and 1200 GV) – obtain a 25% Momentum Bonus on degree 1, 5% on degree 2, 10% on degree 3 and 5% on degree 4
- Energy Begin (generate 400 PV and 2800 GV) – obtain a 35% Momentum Bonus on degree 1, 5% on degree 2, 10% on ranges 3 and 4, 5% on degree 5 and a couple of% on ranges 6 and seven
- Turbo Begin (generate 480 PV and 4000 GV) – obtain a 40% Momentum Bonus on degree 1, 5% on degree 2, 10% on ranges 3 and 4 and 5% on ranges 5 to eight
The Momentum Bonus is paid out weekly. ShopWithMe nevertheless don’t specify the whether or not PV/GV necessities are recurring over a set time interval or gathered.
If I needed to guess I’d assume Momentum Bonus PV/GV necessities are weekly or month-to-month recurring ove the twelve-week qualification interval.
Bonus Swimming pools
ShopWithMe rewards NSC and better ranked associates with a share in six rank-specific bonus swimming pools:
- qualify at NSC and obtain a share in a 1% Bonus Pool (2% if NSC certified for inside 12 weeks of signing up)
- qualify at ISC and obtain a share in a 3% Bonus Pool (6% if ISC certified for inside 12 weeks of qualifying at NSC)
- qualify at GEL and obtain a share in a 4% Bonus Pool (8% if GEL certified for inside 12 weeks of qualifying at ISC)
- qualify at GED and obtain a share in a 5% Bonus Pool (10% if GED certified for inside 12 weeks of qualifying at GEL)
- qualify at GEP and obtain a share in a 6% Bonus Pool (12% if GEP certified for inside 12 weeks of qualifying at GED)
- qualify at CE and obtain a share in a 7% Bonus Pool (14% if CE certified for inside 12 weeks of qualifying at GEP)
Bonus Swimming pools are funded as a proportion of ShopWithMe’s company-wide commissionable gross sales quantity.
Be aware that ShopWithMe doesn’t present rank qualification standards.
Becoming a member of ShopWithMe
ShopWithMe affiliate membership prices are not disclosed.
ShopWithMe Conclusion
Though it’s offered as an ecommerce enterprise…
Shopwithme is the 100% Turnkey Social Commerce Enterprise, serving to anyone to take part within the Social Commerce Megatrend with none Enterprise expertise & conventional enterprise danger!
Shopwithme is creating & introducing revolutionary new instruments and applied sciences to make social commerce referrals quick, enjoyable, and simple.
Members can save 1000nds of Euros a 12 months for minutes of easy & enjoyable On-line Sharing Actions!
Shopwithme Store House owners can earn on 1000’s of Wellness, Magnificence & Private Care Health Merchandise & many Extra with out ever investing Cash right into a Warehouse, Customer support, or difficult product approvals and imports.
Just by Inviting New Members to your Store, who can save as much as to 90% on their favourite Merchandise for inviting their buddies = extra New Members to your store!!!
Since most of our clients will purchase the Merchandise on month-to-month Reorder, you’ll be able to construct a really substantial passive Revenue very half time, with zero value for warehouse & Employees!
…ShopWithMe is a continuation of Christian Wiesner’s failed WellStar “promote tickets!” mannequin.
To cite once more what Kari Wahlroos introduced this up in 2015:
I’ve had numerous discussions with you to repair the countless issues and also you by no means ship. All now we have been instructed by you, for over 18 months, is ‘recruit extra’ and ‘promote extra tickets’.
I didn’t know what that meant on the time however having sat although one among Wiesner’s ShopWithMe shows, shopping for and promoting tickets is mainly all he talked about.
Shopping for 5 tickets apparently qualifies you as a Nationwide Success Coach.
Shopping for ten tickets qualifies you for “Stage 2”, a meet and greet at an area ShopWithMe occasion.
Shopping for 100 tickets between you and your downline qualifies you for “Stage 3”, a dinner with Wiesner.
How Wiesner describes the Stage 3 dinner is… odd.
Stage 3 is a CEO dinner, proper after the occasion. Going to dinner with Ghazala and Christian.
Precisely, you heard it. That is one thing regular individuals solely dream about.
It is a very, very unique dinner desk. You usually should be Triple Champion to dream about sitting there.
And proper after the occasion when everyone must go house, you’ll inform them, “Oh I’d like to go house with you however the CEO requested me for personal dinners [sic]. So sorry I can’t include you.”
Meet and greet is a glass of champagne. Fifteen minutes, chitty-chatty, picture picture and that’s it. Thanks very a lot and goodbye.
Non-public dinner proper now’s actually costly. Actually costly.
In the event you don’t have 100 tickets, don’t name your self a frontrunner.
You’ve acquired to advertise 100 tickets in your staff, and also you’ll be invited to a CEO dinner.
Riiiiiiiigh………..t.
Wiesner characterizes ShopWithMe advertising occasions as “excursions”.
I went again and checked out what sense I used to be capable of make of WellStar’s compensation plan in BehindMLM’s authentic evaluate.
Rank names and payout buildings have modified however a lot of the issues famous again in 2016 are nonetheless current.
Whether or not it’s language-barrier points, the truth that WellStar was based twelve years in the past – regardless of the motive – WellStar as an MLM alternative is in determined want of an overhaul.
Issues come up with an absence of disclosure on the WellStar web site, spanning retail costs, affiliate membership prices and fundamental compensation plan data.
As to the compensation plan itself, there’s a number of data offered however not a lot of it makes any sense.
Substitute WellStar with ShopWithMe, and 6 years on all of that holds true.
It’s a fairly poor reflection of Wiesner’s govt type, however comprehensible if he’s solely centered on promoting tickets to occasions the place he’s the focus.
It’s value noting that at no level through the 47 minute “leaders” ShopWithMe advertising presentation I sat by way of, did Wiesner point out retail gross sales of any form.
ShopWithMe is all about recruitment and promoting tickets. The precise issues Kari Wahlroos complained about in 2015.
Heck, I couldn’t even confirm ShopWithMe’s ecommerce platform even exists.
Wiesner claims that ShopWithMe associates will be capable of construct “full time revenue with just one hour a day effort”. That’s clearly not achievable, and within the US can be a chief instance of an FTC violation.
For now ShopWithMe is being pitched to international locations Wiesner can get to on his “excursions”, specifically Europe.
SimilarWeb at present pegs nearly all of visitors to ShopWithMe’s web site as originating from Germany (32%, down 84% month on month Could to June).
Algeria (19%), the US (14%), the UK (11%) and Pakistan (9%) are different international locations ShopWithMe is being promoted in.
No matter the place it’s being pitched although, ShopWithMe is shaping as much as be spherical two of the pyramid scheme Wiesner began with WellStar.
WellStar ended with widespread monetary losses and shell firms collapsing on one another. Anticipate no completely different when ShopWithMe inevitably implodes.
